Hi, everyone.  I found this forum through a thread in supraforums and read that a fellow supra owner/enthusiasts is running this place.  So, I’d figure I’d give Dave( I think that is him) the business and seek training help through here.

I’ve been working out on and off since high school, but I’ve never gone more than 6-8 months of working out.  I want to be consistent this time and actually pay attention to what I’m going to be doing.  I’ve never gone on any diets and have tried proteins and creatine, but they never sat well with me(bad case of tummy aches).  However, I have tried whey tech protein and I don’t have any side effects from that.

Anyways, to start off.  I need to hit the gym again and want to do it right this time.  I am a complete noob, I just lifted and did whatever people at the gym told me to do without asking any questions.  so please take it easy when I ask noob-ish questions.

I plan to go to the gym before work and after work.  Now, if I were to work out my arms in the morning do I do my arms again at night or do another part of the body?  Also, with protein please recommand one. And when do I take protein?  Before or after work out and how many times a day?  And does it matter if i mix the protein powder with milk or water?  Sorry for the long and unclear questions.  but welcome me~~-_-

Aloha & welcome Dk. Thanks for dropping by, and please don’t worry if you notice the boards are particularly slow. I think everyone slowly stopped checking in on the forums as we all started getting busier.

Anyway, to get started on the questions....

It would go a long way to see a pic or get an accurate idea of your current physical status and where exactly you’d like to go with it. Eg. Do you want to just stay in shape? Be a bodybuilder? Lose weight? Etc… As far as what supplements you should look into starting off with, I would recommend the following: BCAA’s (Branched Chain Amino Acids), Glucosamine/Chondroitin, a Multi-Vitamin, Whey Isolate Protein. Depending on what your goals are, we can add to that list to accommodate you needs. Look to take in about 1.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight. Depending on your overall daily intake of protein through real food, that may equate to just a couple of shakes. I typically mix my whey with water, but if you need the calories and you can handle the lactose, go for the milk.

Training: To a very great extent, the old adage of less is more applies in my experience. Due to your body’s naturally occurring hormone/chemical levels it would be best for you to try and maximize the intensity of your workouts and consolidate it to 1 session. Keep that session under/around an hour. Obviously you’re going to want to get into the gym with a workout plan in hand to facilitate that. There are some great workout’s posted in the Training Log forum, so check it out. If you want to hit the gym twice a day.....maybe look to do a cardio session on the 2nd trip.

Hi, Dave.

I guess I’ll take a picture of myself and post it up this week.  But as of right now, I’m 5’7-5’8 tall and weigh in 160-165lbs.  My goal is to stay in shape and build some muscle, especially my arms but I don’t want to get crazy big and huge. From my past experiences, my muscle build up is pretty good(i’m happy with it at least.), but I could never be happy with the size(thickness) of my arms and forearms.  So, I want to focus a little bit more on my arms than I did previously.  Also, another thing I noticed is that when I’m working out, I tend to lose weight and drop to 150lbs.  I was at the gym 5 days a week last year for about 7months straight and while I was happy with overall progress, I just couldnt figure out why I lost the weight and stayed at 150lbs while my body got bigger. 

Dave, I assume that the products you listed can be found on your store webpage and I will ask you questions after I read up on them.  Cuz honestly, the only thing I understand right now is the term protein.lol.

Also, why do you recommand cardio on the 2nd trip and not the first visit?  Thanks for the response and answering my questions.

-DK

Dave - 20 July 2008 10:35 AM

Aloha & welcome Dk. Thanks for dropping by, and please don’t worry if you notice the boards are particularly slow. I think everyone slowly stopped checking in on the forums as we all started getting busier.

Anyway, to get started on the questions....

It would go a long way to see a pic or get an accurate idea of your current physical status and where exactly you’d like to go with it. Eg. Do you want to just stay in shape? Be a bodybuilder? Lose weight? Etc… As far as what supplements you should look into starting off with, I would recommend the following: BCAA’s (Branched Chain Amino Acids), Glucosamine/Chondroitin, a Multi-Vitamin, Whey Isolate Protein. Depending on what your goals are, we can add to that list to accommodate you needs. Look to take in about 1.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight. Depending on your overall daily intake of protein through real food, that may equate to just a couple of shakes. I typically mix my whey with water, but if you need the calories and you can handle the lactose, go for the milk.

Training: To a very great extent, the old adage of less is more applies in my experience. Due to your body’s naturally occurring hormone/chemical levels it would be best for you to try and maximize the intensity of your workouts and consolidate it to 1 session. Keep that session under/around an hour. Obviously you’re going to want to get into the gym with a workout plan in hand to facilitate that. There are some great workout’s posted in the Training Log forum, so check it out. If you want to hit the gym twice a day.....maybe look to do a cardio session on the 2nd trip.

I found my digi cam and took a pic.

DK, your weight questions may very likely be related to the fact that you are possibly overtraining. I used to do arms every week with the rest of my body parts, but after further research and reflection, it occurred to me that you use them pretty much everytime you’re working out everything else. I decided to do arms once a month and noticed they started to grow. Knocked it down to once every 2 months and I was able to maintain size and strength. Sometimes, less is more.

Cardio on the 2nd trip cause I figure you want to use your energy on the lifting part. I personally would skip the 2nd trip and diet instead of cardio. JMO.

Hey man. I have to agree with Dave, you don’t really wanna do 2-a-days. Looking at your picture, it seems that you aren’t overweight, so I think some good lifting and a good diet should do wonders for you. But that also depends on what your goals are. Are you going for the A&F;look, or training for a sport? Give a little more detail and Im sure dave can help you out.

Hey Dave. Im having a super hard time gaining weight right now. I’m about 200lbs at 6’ft and Im trying to get to 215-220. I am on my 3rd day of tren (bought four bottles from brian the other day) but you have any tips. Here ill give you my diet.

1 peanut butter sandwich
1cup oatmeal
7egg whites
3whole eggs

1 8oz steak
1 cup rice

workout
50g protein
45g sugar + (10g of creatine, leucine, and glutamine)

then 4 8 oz chicken breast and 4 cups of rice between 2pm and 10pm

then 25g of protein at 1030

I mean, I am full all day and have been at this for about 3 weeks and only gained about 5lbs. Do I just need to be patient or am I doing something wrong?

Dave, thank you for you input.  I have yet to go to the gym since I made my first post. -_-
Work has me by the balls and even got me working on Saturdays and on week long business trips.  I’m pushing myself to get up in the morning to get to the gym since I get off work too late and dead tired afterwards.

Darren, I’m not training for a sport.  I just want to get in shape and sculpt my body to my own satisfaction.  I guess I’m going for the A&F;look like you said, but I’m not trying to show off or impress anyone.

I’ll make my next post once I’m actually in the gym instead of talking about going to the gym.-_-